I got to interview Nick Sotelo Podcast. Nick is a podcast host of The Upgraded Life, a licensed marriage and family therapist, a PhD in counseling education and supervision, husband, father, and coach helping people to realize and reach their potential. We spoke about: 1:15 Driven by challenge. 11:30 Leveling up underdogs. 20:50 Settling and convincing themselves they are happy. This episode is sponsored by Nova Zora Digital experts in digital marketing. Check out Real Talk Podcasting for all th...